Beer and Bullsh*t
Join award-winning beer writer Ben Johnson (”The Globe and Mail” ”The Growler” ”Toronto Life”) and his occasional co-host Chris Pellarin as we dive into the stories behind the beer in your glass. Crack open cold ones with brewmasters, industry pros, and some of Canada’s funniest personalities to talk brewery insights, beer industry deep dives, and unfiltered conversations that go way beyond the pint.
Episodes

Thursday Nov 02, 2023
Thursday Nov 02, 2023
Ben chats with Tariq Ahmed of Revel Cider in Guelph about the road from pig poop and a fermentation obsession to opening a cider house experimenting with hyper local terroir and unique biodiversity. They talk the craziness that is cider taxes, having to own an orchard to sell products, and the precarious position the company is currently in. Plus Ben attempts an apple-focused quiz in Chris' absence.

Thursday Oct 19, 2023
Thursday Oct 19, 2023
Ben and Chris chat with Rob Hern of Shortfinger Brewery in Waterloo about the many hectolitres of bad homebrew he’s consumed, dill pickle pizza, and never having to deliver another keg again, plus Star Wars trivia and Chris recaps his time in Ireland.

Wednesday Oct 04, 2023
Wednesday Oct 04, 2023
Ben and Chris chat with craft beer journeyman, Eric Miinch, who regales with tales of the beer scene in Essex County as the forthcoming Beer and Bird Shit festival takes shape. Plus the sip of beer that made Eric fall in love with craft beer, tomatoes and reefer, and a very special improv Pell’s Corner.

Wednesday Sep 27, 2023
Wednesday Sep 27, 2023
For our 60th episode, Ben and Chris chat with beer industry veteran Troy Burtch about press junkets, sample beers, marketing, sales, The Great Canadian Beer Blog, TAPs Magazine, Toronto Beer Week, and all about his long career at — and brief hiatus from — Great Lakes Brewery.

Thursday Sep 21, 2023
Thursday Sep 21, 2023
A throwback to 2020: Revisit Ben's interview with reclusive US distiller Buck Tucker where they discuss the intricacies of liquor distribution, sourcing ingredients, and building a brand; featuring Josh Murray.

Wednesday Sep 13, 2023
Wednesday Sep 13, 2023
Our friend Ren Navarro returns to the show to talk about accountability in craft beer, blackface Polish Drake, Assy Juice, and the countries that drink the most beer; plus we get into the best Quaid, the most expensive beer you ever had, and more!

Wednesday Sep 06, 2023
Wednesday Sep 06, 2023
Ben and Chris talk back to school memories, Ted Cruz, chugging beer at US Open tennis, hair of the dog, and more.

Thursday Aug 31, 2023
Thursday Aug 31, 2023
A Pellhead special treat! Chris chats with Justin Belanger, co-owner of London's Storm Stayed Brewery, about East Coast beer destinations, the inspiration for their beer, and running out of colours to use on their labels.

Thursday Aug 17, 2023
Thursday Aug 17, 2023
When their guest backs out of this week’s show, Ben and Chris opt to take a quiz to see how much they know about each other. Tune in for TMI, including their dream jobs, embarrassing sexual encounters, Chris’ trip to the east coast, and how Buck Martinez likes his hot dogs.

Wednesday Aug 09, 2023
Wednesday Aug 09, 2023
Ben chats with Scott Simmons, the President of the Ontario Craft Brewers association, about provincial taxes for brewers, the future of retail craft beer in Ontario, codes of conduct, what's in his beer fridge, and more.